Snippit from Security Now Podcast: https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-444.htm
Steve: Oh, yeah, there it is. So I had seen it visually, but I'd never dug into it and looked at it. But so many people were tweeting me that I got tired of saying go look at Threema. I thought, okay, let's go look at Telegram. So I go to the website, and I'm impressed by the openness of what I see. I mean, they appear to be good people. Everything is open, open source. They're multiplatform. There on the screen you are showing their API. There's a bunch of different stuff going on. They're running competitions. They're like, who can create the best Telegram Android app and so forth. So all that seems good.
So then, of course, I want to go find out about the crypto. And I see this diagram that is the most bizarre-looking thing I have ever encountered. I mean, I don't think I'm exaggerating. Maybe it's the most bizarre thing I've ever encountered. And I look at it, and they're like, they're taking the plaintext of the message, and the